At an occasion that tends to favor these with earlier course information, Barkley Marathons first-timer Ihor Verys of Ukraine however residing in Canada gained the 2024 version of the notorious occasion on March 22 in a time of 58 hours, 44 minutes, and 59 seconds.
Verys credit working along with veterans of the occasion for the early laps, operating alongside a robust group together with John Kelly and Jasmin Paris at instances, for his personal success and that of a record-breaking variety of runners this 12 months. The relative newcomer to the game placed on a masterclass on navigating the bodily, emotional, and psychological difficulties of the occasion.
On this interview, Verys talks about his strategy to the race as a first-timer, why he thinks there have been so many finishers this 12 months, his relative newness to ultrarunning, his enjoyment of his first Barkley expertise, and whether or not he intends to return sooner or later.
Be taught extra about this 12 months’s Barkley Marathons in our outcomes article.
[Editor’s Note: The following interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.]
Ihor Verys (left) and Jodi Isenor, who crewed Verys, pose with the Ukrainian and Canadian flags on the 2024 Barkley Marathons end. All pictures courtesy of Ihor Verys.
iRunFar: Ihor, congratulations in your Barkley end. That’s unbelievable. How do you’re feeling about that?
Ihor Verys: It’s nonetheless sinking in. It would take a number of months, perhaps years. I nonetheless can’t consider it. I nonetheless generally really feel like I’d simply get up someplace in the midst of Frozen Head State Park, and I simply fell asleep and it’s all only a dream. [laughs]
iRunFar: You’ve nonetheless bought 37 hours and a complete lot of books to go.
Verys: Yeah, I’m misplaced on the way in which to ebook 5, and I simply dreamed about ending, however in actual fact, search and rescue has been on the lookout for me for days now. [laughs]
iRunFar: [laughs] Properly, it means you’re sleeping nicely. Congratulations on that.
Verys: Yeah, thanks.
iRunFar: Earlier than we get into the main points, it’s actually uncommon for an individual to complete Barkley, however to complete it on their first attempt. I’d love to listen to your perspective on that. What do you attribute to with the ability to end in your first time on the market?
Verys: They are saying that there are extra failers than finishers, however I at all times attempt to have a special mindset, wanting on the individuals who completed it and say, I do know most people fail at Barkley, however there are 17 finishers. So why can’t I be one in all them? One in all my inspirations was Aurélien Sanchez from final 12 months. He was additionally a Barkley virgin, but he accomplished it the very first 12 months, and he completed being the primary one final 12 months. So I checked out earlier circumstances and situations, and lots of different Barkley finishers did it on their first try, and I undoubtedly derived loads of inspiration from them.
After all, I really feel prefer it will also be attributed to all of the coaching and preparation that comes with gearing up for Barkley. It’s not your typical race. You’ll be able to’t simply present up simply having a number of miles in your legs over earlier months. You need to practice your power. You need to practice your navigation expertise, and I spent many, many months and years doing so. And once they got here right down to Barkley, I used to be simply prepared.
iRunFar: Yeah. It’s removed from straightforward, however do you suppose it’s barely simpler that we now have 20 finishers and all of the expertise of the years of people that didn’t end, such that loads of classes have been discovered? As an illustration, did you be taught lots from earlier Barkley entrants, whether or not they’re finishers or not?
Verys: Completely, you may undoubtedly be taught from them. I feel another excuse why we had 5 finishers this 12 months — it has nothing to do with the course being straightforward, in actual fact, the course was more durable, new sections have been added — is simply that we labored as a workforce for the primary 4 loops. So we labored towards Barkley, and by placing all of those minds collectively, we have been capable of accomplish such a feat as 5 finishers. It’s a historic end, and I’m actually proud to be part of it.
Ihor Verys prepping maps and ready for the conch to sound earlier than beginning the 2024 Barkley Marathons.
iRunFar: That was my first query in regards to the play-by-play. That first lap it did look like of us have been working collectively. That was the case?
Verys: The primary loop was distinctive, in keeping with the veterans. As a result of it was my first 12 months, I didn’t know what to anticipate. I didn’t know the way many individuals would have the ability to be within the lead pack, and we ended up having nearly 20 individuals shut collectively for a lot of the first loop. Once I chatted with John Kelly, I requested him, “Is it regular?” And he mentioned, “No. By now there needs to be 5 individuals most. I’ve by no means seen such a giant practice this far into the primary loop.” I requested him, “What do you suppose, is it a tricky crowd, or do you suppose individuals are simply operating less than their means?” And he’s like, “Properly, I assume we’ll see later.” [laughs]
The group was getting smaller and smaller. And on the finish, we had this little group of seven individuals, and 6 individuals, after which simply 5 individuals that will be within the lead. Then, there was one other little group with Jared Campbell and Greig Hamilton somewhat bit behind us. They’d their very own group there. We have been attempting to stay collectively. I assume it was John, myself, Damian Corridor, and Jasmin Paris at all times round there. And for a while, Sébastien [Raichon] from France was there as nicely. Sébastien won’t essentially converse English, however we have been capable of converse one navigation language, which was superb. He helped us, we helped him, and it was teamwork. It was really teamwork on the market, and I feel that’s why we had 5 finishers.
iRunFar: How lengthy have been you operating with individuals? I imply not essentially each minute, however for probably the most half.
Verys: Within the second loop, 5 of us completed with Sébastien, however Sébastien needed to take an extended break after that. So, for the third loop, there have been 4 of us: John, Damian, myself, and Jasmin. The 4 of us lasted fairly some time, all the way in which into the fourth loop. After which it was John, Damian, and myself on loop 4. The three of us labored collectively. Jasmin was simply behind us. Then, loop 5, we’re all on our personal. We’ve got to take [alternating] instructions. That is the place true Barkley begins, on loop 5, as a result of it’s simply you and the course, and for those who haven’t discovered by now, Barkley will train you a lesson.
A relaxed and composed Ihor Verys performs nighttime pit cease chores between loops.
iRunFar: Was it excellent timing for many of loop 5 to be in daylight?
Verys: The primary three hours have been in darkness, after which the solar got here out, lovely climate. I used to be joking that Laz[arus Lake, the race director] did the beginning in order that it ends at 5:00 p.m. so he may go to mattress proper after. [laughs]
He was like, I don’t need to take care of that in the midst of the night time.
iRunFar: On that lap 4, I’m simply going again somewhat bit. Did you end up operating out in entrance alone at any level in a while loop 4?
Verys: All three of us have been collectively. I left somewhat bit early on loop 4 as a result of there was somewhat path, so I took it straightforward digesting meals that I took on the camp, and I loaded up loads of energy in order that John and Damian may catch up. As soon as they caught up with me, the three of us labored collectively. I didn’t need to go alone. I used to be pretty comfy going utterly alone for loop 4, however I figured if we’ve this chance of working collectively for yet another loop, why not take it?
iRunFar: So mainly, did you do the entire loop collectively?
Verys: Yeah. Loop 4 was the slowest as a result of it was the second night time. Everybody’s sleep-deprived and drained. We made a bunch of errors, however these weren’t essential errors. I feel our loop 4 was 14 hours, which may be very sluggish. However hopefully we have been capable of repair these errors and prepare for loop 5.
iRunFar: So that you’re ending loop 4. Possibly there’s one path that most individuals really feel is less complicated, otherwise you personally really feel is less complicated. How did you resolve who was going to get to decide on first and in what path for loop 5? Do you dash into the checkpoint to stand up first or did you really focus on it as a bunch?
Verys: The rule is that whoever is able to go away first will get to decide on the path. I didn’t need to sleep. I simply wanted to alter socks and sneakers, and I’m able to go. John needed to take a nap, as he was falling asleep a bit, and we misplaced Damian by the top of the loop 4 within the darkness. I don’t know the place he went, however he may share that story sooner or later. However anyway, as we have been ending up loop 4 with John, I requested him, “Is it okay? I feel I’m not going to take loads of time within the camp. I’m simply going to eat, change sneakers, and I’m out of right here. And I’ll take clockwise.” He mentioned, yeah, he’s tremendous with that as a result of he needed to take a break. And for me, clockwise. The explanation why I needed to take it’s as a result of I simply got here from counterclockwise, so it’s form of recent in my mind. I used to be considering throughout these first three night time hours, I ought to have the ability to find these books. And hopefully, when the solar is out, there might be aid.
iRunFar: You thought that’d be simpler than, although you’d gone that final lap within the different path, it had been 14 hours plus your break that you simply had gone?
Verys: Properly, the explanation it was 14 hours was as a result of it was night time. Evening loops are at all times slower. The counterclockwise path additionally begins with a path part. So, it’s really simpler at first a minimum of. However then it relies upon, you recognize. Some individuals say it’s simpler, some individuals say it’s not. I figured I’d take clockwise and take my likelihood on that.
iRunFar: How did that remaining lap go? Did you’ve got any massive points or issues?
Verys: It’s humorous, I used to be telling my crew, Jodi Isenor, that the one loop the place I didn’t make errors was loop 5. Whereas I used to be very nervous as a result of I used to be on my own, I did memorize lots over the primary 4 loops. And once they got here to the purpose the place I wasn’t positive if this was the spot, I simply trusted my compass. The compass won’t ever deceive you. I relied on the compass 100%, and it didn’t let me down. There was one spot with one ebook that I overshot somewhat bit, however I used to be capable of determine it out and retrace it again and discover it. However apart from that, I landed just about each single ebook spot on. It did take me somewhat bit longer than if I have been with another person, simply because I used to be at all times ensuring I used to be in the appropriate path, I used to be in the appropriate spot, confirming with a map, confirming with options, confirming with landmarks and my compass. And you recognize, for those who belief your compass, it’s going to steer you to the appropriate spot, and that’s what occurred to me.
iRunFar: You had left on loop 5 with sufficient time that you simply have been higher to confirm that you simply have been in the appropriate spot entering into the appropriate path to spend somewhat bit of additional time doing that than guessing and simply trusting with out verifying.
Are there any highlights on that final loop? Something that was simply nice or stood out positively?
Verys: In the event you discover the ebook, or you recognize the place you might be, it’s simply this little child second. I’m like, Oh my gosh, I did it! Heck yeah! And it simply provides you that motivation and that vitality to maintain going. And you discover the second ebook and also you’re like, oh my god, I’m so good at it! It’s simply these little moments and also you’re like somewhat little one there in the midst of nowhere, discovering these little books, and each time I discovered it, it simply gave me additional vitality for the following push, although I had fairly horrible points with my toes. However it might assist me to neglect about that ache, to shelf that ache, go away it for later, and simply transfer on to the following one.
Each time I did it, I used to be simply so happy with myself, happy with the whole lot that my crew, Jodi taught me, as a result of I knew that I used to be not doing it only for myself. I’m doing it for him. I’m doing it for Canada and Ukraine. There are such a lot of individuals which might be behind me, standing for me, cheering and supporting me, and I simply didn’t need to allow them to down. Having this thought in my head, it helped me to get by that loop alone.
iRunFar: It gave the impression of by the top of the third loop your toes have been in fairly horrible form however what occurred? You had a really lengthy option to go on unhealthy toes.
Verys: I ended up creating trench foot. I don’t know for those who’re acquainted with that, however I had the identical subject on the Harm [100 Mile] a few months prior, however I simply needed to go along with them from one loop there, which is like 5 hours. Hereafter loop three, I already had them, and a loop takes 12, 13, 14 hours, so you may’t actually change your sneakers and socks, typically sufficient. And my toes, I assume they’ve child pores and skin or no matter, they usually develop these trenches.
Each step was very painful. Once I completed loop 4, I referred to as my crew, and I feel Laz heard that too as a result of he talked about it in his write-up. He really noticed my horrible toes as I took off the socks, and even Laz didn’t consider that I’d have the ability to end it. I simply informed myself one step at a time, one ebook at a time, and I shelved the ache. I forgot about it for some time and I simply took it off the shelf on the finish of the race.
iRunFar: Typically, the experiences about you all through the race have been that you simply have been calm, actually clear-headed, and apart from your toes, fairly able-bodied. Had been these experiences proper or was there much more struggling occurring, and also you simply have been capable of keep calm outwardly?
Verys: I feel these experiences are pretty truthful. I didn’t have every other points. I used to be very proud of the way in which my physique responded. I had no points with vitamin. I had no points with sleep deprivation. Apart from my toes, my physique felt nice. I had zero cramping. My muscle tissue felt nice. I felt good climbing. My quads have been nice descending. Apart from these toes, which is nothing within the massive scheme of issues. Navigation was working nicely. So total, these items of the puzzle, as soon as I put them collectively and realized, you recognize what, there are such a lot of issues that might have gone improper, however they’re going proper. It gave me the boldness to look good, too. I assume individuals noticed that in me after which they put it of their report.
iRunFar: Did you take pleasure in any of it?
Verys: You understand what? I loved each single second of it. Possibly as soon as on loop 4 in the midst of the night time, we ended up within the improper spot — I didn’t double-check and nobody in our group double-checked. I used to be like, oh my goodness, I’ll by no means ever do it once more, silly. Nevertheless it was very short-lived. Possibly a pair seconds after that I simply felt so privileged to have the ability to do it.
My mindset was, I don’t need to do it; I get to do it. That’s what helped me get by it. Even the night time earlier than the conch was blown, I used to be there like somewhat child sitting in my automobile. I’m like, oh my gosh, I’m within the Barkley camp, ready for the conch to be blown. This occasion has been on since 1986 and I get to be part of it. It doesn’t matter what the result’s going to be, I’m part of the Barkley household now. And that made me so joyful and so appreciative of life and this chance.
All experiences coming from the race indicated a robust and joyful Ihor. And so they have been appropriate.
iRunFar: I heard that you simply perhaps joked once you completed that the race needs to be six loops, not 5. May you’ve got finished a sixth loop for those who wanted to or have been you fairly finished at that time?
Verys: Possibly my toes weren’t proud of that joke, however once more, the remainder of my physique felt nice. It was a joke, in fact. I simply checked out my watch and noticed that it was nonetheless sub-59 [hours]. I’m like, whoa, we bought one other hour right here to go. So, for those who throw in one other loop for 12 hours, we’d have the ability to try it. However once more, it’s all a joke. After all each loop at Barkley is a grueling problem. You see that half of the sector was gone after the primary loop, and Barkley is as onerous as everybody imagines it. It’s really worse than everybody imagines it. It’s actually onerous to clarify as a result of no one’s allowed to be off-trail there. The one factor individuals see is rat jaw. And rat jaw, in actual fact, is without doubt one of the best sections on the Barkley course, simply to present the angle of how horrible the off-trail sections are. [laughs] However I really loved it. I anticipated that. I skilled on one thing like that, and after I confronted it, I used to be prepared.
iRunFar: How did you practice for Barkley?
Verys: Properly, residing in Chilliwack[, British Columbia], we’re blessed to have loads of loopy technical trails. Tremendous steep, tremendous rocky, tremendous rooty. You don’t essentially need to go off-trail, you may simply keep on these trails. They’re fairly unhealthy, being really marked trails. So I spent loads of time in my yard climbing and descending these trails, constructing these climbing legs, constructing power, ensuring I may climb and descend for lengthy hours nonstop.
I’d spend loads of time learning maps and doing navigational practices, which might be probably the most missed a part of Barkley, as a result of many sturdy athletes can get by 4 loops, however the fifth loop once you’re by yourself and you must know the map. You need to know the compass. You need to know how one can use it. And for those who don’t have that talent, Barkley will eat you. So, I needed to practice in loads of navigational facets. I signed up with the native membership and did orienteering races. I even did the Western Canadian Orienteering Championships, the place I completed second to final. It’s all about expertise. You don’t need to be an ideal orienteerer at Barkley, you simply need to be a great orienteerer at Barkley. After all of the months and years of coaching, this does put together you for Barkley.
Barkley is hard. The strongest and smartest on the earth, Barkley can nonetheless eat you, so you must respect the course. You’ll be able to’t simply come unprepared utterly. I’ve seen individuals who come who’ve by no means seen the map earlier than and who don’t use a compass, and I’m like, you recognize what? This course will destroy you. This course will eat its younger.
Individuals need to depend on others, so that they present up they usually suppose they’ll latch on to veterans, however a number of the veterans are exceptionally sturdy and quick athletes. You are taking John Kelly, he’s an extremely match athlete. And if you wish to hold on to him, you’ve bought to be tremendous match. Regardless, even for those who can keep on with a veteran or Jared Campbell, for example, you may keep on with him for 4 loops. Properly, very cool, however what about loop quantity 5, proper?
That is the place the race begins. Right here, you’re by yourself, and that’s how Barkley destroys so many good athletes.
iRunFar: You’ve got simply had nice success at Barkley, 58 hours and alter. You have been on the market with Harvey Lewis throughout his actually lengthy Massive Canine’s Yard Extremely final 12 months. You have been the second furthest ever, however you’ve additionally run 15:44 at Badger Mountain 100 Mile, appropriate? That’s operating fairly quick over 100 miles. Do you favor these many-day occasions? Or do you additionally just like the shorter, quicker stuff?
Verys: The ultrarunning scene, usually, begins from 50 kilometers on, however I discover my power in these longer occasions the place we take 100 miles and longer, particularly the programs that require power, so there might be technical, steep, sluggish programs. I’m not essentially a really quick particular person. In the event you put me on the marathon distance, I’ll suck. However in the case of one thing that’s going to final lengthy and I can keep a sure tempo over hours, days, and nights, I feel that’s very interesting to me.
I do actually like that feeling when the whole lot in your physique tells you to cease, however your thoughts overrides it, and you retain pushing and discovering new boundaries of your physique and thoughts. I actually wish to be in that house. That’s after I get a runner’s excessive. Typically I can surf that wave for hours. That’s what I really take pleasure in.
Ihor Verys will get a hug from his crew, Jodi Isenor, after successful the 2024 Barkley Marathons on his first try.
iRunFar: Operating-wise, what’s subsequent for you? Something you’re wanting ahead to?
Verys: My subsequent few races are going to be native right here in Canada. I’d actually like to journey throughout Canada or go to totally different provinces, run races, in these provinces, and take part in these smaller occasions, and assist these native race administrators and our native races. I feel they want loads of consideration and we are able to collectively each develop and develop our sport in Canada. I maintain repeating that Canada’s fairly often within the shadows of ultrarunning. Our ultrarunners are exceptionally proficient. We’ve got so lots of them, however they’re typically forgotten, and I feel bringing some highlight to Canadian races and areas is one thing I’d actually like to work on within the subsequent few months.
Then, outdoors of Canada, I’m going to Colorado in September to do the Run Rabbit Run 100 Mile. That’s on the schedule. Apart from that, we will see. My schedule isn’t set but utterly. So, I’m open to recommendations.
iRunFar: Do you see your self ever attempting to return to finish Barkley once more, or are you one and happy and finished?
Verys: I’ll by no means reply that query since you’re not speculated to share that information. However, you recognize, on loop 4 once more, when issues have been fairly low sooner or later, I informed myself that, oh my goodness, I’ll by no means ever do it once more. Why would I put myself by these rings of hell? Nevertheless, after I touched the gate the fifth time, after I was capable of chat with the older legends of Barkley, after I bought to expertise not solely the course however your entire historical past and all of the individuals concerned in Barkley, all of the tradition. Barkley tradition is so distinctive. It’s so historic. I informed myself, it might be actually cool simply to stay part of this household. We’ll see. Life will present if I’ll find yourself at Frozen Head State Park once more, however you’ve bought to determine how one can get in first. [laughs]
iRunFar: So going away from Barkley particularly, I’d like to know somewhat bit extra about you, your private background, usually and, then, perhaps speak somewhat bit extra about operating. So the place are you from?
Verys: I stay in Canada. Initially, I’m from Ukraine, however I moved to Canada nearly 9 years in the past now.
iRunFar: How previous have been you then?
Verys: I used to be 21 years previous. I moved to Canada as a scholar attempting to expertise a brand new tradition, a brand new language, a brand new nation. I actually cherished the individuals and the way they stay right here. I at all times needed to remain right here, and by no means went again. I bought into operating in all probability a 12 months after I moved to Canada. I’ve by no means run earlier than wherever. I don’t have observe expertise.
iRunFar: Had been you an athlete rising up?
Verys: Soccer, I assume. We have been all enjoying soccer in Ukraine. It’s our sport. However that’s about it. I wasn’t an athlete. I really hated operating. We had these 3k races at school and I didn’t take pleasure in them in any respect. However then after I moved right here, this was a great alternative for me to search out that psychological well being device that may assist me to take care of the stress and challenges of residing in a brand new nation. Operating is a extremely low cost sport and also you want a number of runners, and also you’re all set. So, I began operating, only for enjoyable attempting to clear my thoughts. Ultimately, I began doing half marathons, marathons, and after COVID-19, I transitioned to trails.
iRunFar: How did you discover the paths? How did you come into that?
Verys: COVID-19 occurred and we weren’t allowed to be outdoors, proper? You have been speculated to self-isolate, and for those who have been operating on pavement, everybody’s going to see you and everybody’s going to guage you. Like, hey, you’re speculated to be inside. You can’t be outdoors. So, I found trails. They have been again in Manitoba, the province the place I used to stay. We had trails simply outdoors of the town. So, I can escape to the paths. Nobody’s going to see me there and nobody’s going to guage me, and that’s how I bought into path operating.
Then, on trails, I bumped into different ultrarunners or path runners, and from them, I discovered that folks can really run greater than a marathon distance. I used to be like, oh, actually? Let me look into it. So, I began exploring it. I used to be like, okay, it seems like I can go additional than marathon distance.
In a while, I tried a quickest identified time (FKT). It was 125 kilometers, and I felt nice. It was on a well-known path in Manitoba referred to as Mantario Path, and it’s a well-liked FKT path. I felt actually good, particularly the second half, and I used to be like, wow, I feel I’m hooked on going lengthy distances now. After that, I moved to British Columbia, within the mountains the place I stay now, and I signed up for my first 100k mountain race, and I ended up successful it. It was my first extremely, and the remainder is historical past. I’ve been doing these long-distance races ever since, and I’ve been having fun with it.
iRunFar: It’s simply onerous to think about you discovered path operating solely 4 years earlier than ending Barkley. That’s unbelievable.
Verys: Yeah, I assume it’s a bit lower than 4 years. I by no means consider it that method. However I assume you’re proper.
iRunFar: Individuals suppose you may want a long time of path and extremely expertise to complete Barkley. Nope, 4 years. And even lower than that for ultrarunning expertise. What was your first ultra-length run? Was it that FKT, or what was your first extremely?
Verys: It was in September 2021. There was a 100k race simply on the island right here, the Finlayson Arm 100k.
iRunFar: So mainly two and a half years since your first extremely in September 2021.
Verys: Yeah.
iRunFar: Okay, that’s form of humbling for the remainder of the world.
Verys: [laughs]
Ihor Verys together with his crew, Jodi Isenor, altering garments and refilling his pack between loops.
iRunFar: If I have been you, I’d need to be dreaming. Alright, “So what is feasible? I can do that in two and a half years…”
Verys: I really feel unhealthy now. [laughs]
iRunFar: No, you shouldn’t. You’re much more superhuman than you thought you have been.
Verys: I assume I simply by no means consider it. I at all times suppose ahead, and after I end Barkley, I’m like, okay, what’s subsequent? The place do I have to work to enhance? I nonetheless take into account myself a scholar of the sport. I’m nonetheless studying some issues. Simply because it’s been only some years, and I’m nonetheless studying, okay, what meals will work? What vitamin, what garments? Ought to I sleep? Ought to I do that? How briskly? How ought to I practice? I don’t have a coach. So, I’m looking for what works for me the very best, and I like to be a scholar of the sport. I like to do all these difficult occasions as a result of they at all times reveal your weak spots, particularly in occasions like Barkley. It is going to undoubtedly present your weak spots, however then you may work on them, enhance your self, and make your self even higher for future adventures.
iRunFar: You got here to Canada to review. What have been you learning?
Verys: Worldwide enterprise. I simply did a two-year faculty program. I had my diploma in Ukraine. I’ve a bachelor’s diploma in worldwide relations. However due to the state of affairs, due to the revolution we had there, I didn’t need to work for the federal government that was in cost at that time. It was an anti-people authorities. For me, as a possible for future diplomatic envoy, as a result of that’s what the worldwide relations school is instructing you, I didn’t need to characterize that authorities, and subsequently I made that alternative to return to Canada and check out a special path in my life. At that time, I used to be solely 21, in order that’s fairly younger. This chance got here up.
iRunFar: What does work appear to be nowadays for you? What area are you working in?
Verys: I work in insurance coverage, which is so bizarre. I’d by no means suppose I’d find yourself on this area, however I’m doing business insurance coverage as an account supervisor. I work for a giant, worldwide firm referred to as HUB Worldwide. I spend loads of time within the workplace. Operating helps me, as soon as I’m on the market, to ease the stress. I really benefit from the outside, and once you spend that a lot time within the workplace, you undoubtedly want the day out.
iRunFar: Yeah, nicely, you bought 58 hours and alter of day out this previous week, so good. Ihor, thanks a lot on your time, and congratulations in your Barkley end.
Verys: Thanks, Bryon. It’s an honor and pleasure. I actually admire your curiosity in my journey.
